Steam Sounds Supreme Projects

[DominusEdwardius]

The other real difference is the area directly in front of the middle cylinder, and the Scot also has a large sandbox above the footplate whereas the patriot does not . There are a few other minor ones but I haven't spotted them
regards
Edward

[cjbarnes5294]

Rebuilt Jubilees are the most differentiated of the 3 2A boilered 4-6-0s (and the best looking of the three in my opinion, with more Stanier "finesse" and better proportions). I didn't realise the Patriots had more differences to the Scots than just the Stanier cab, though.

They leaked from every gland and were not given a lot of love. Here's one:

http://www.semaphoresandsteam.com/p1279 ... #h386dcc05

On the Annesley Fireman site, the owner says all the ones they received in lieu of Britannias were clapped out and weren't as good as a Black 5. This one's a rebuilt Jubilee but gives an idea, too.:

http://www.annesleyfireman.com/imagelib ... ust%201964

If you can be this flexible about names and numbers, Chris, how difficult would it be to add the few Patriot and Jubilee rebuilds to the list? I know they're not technically identical but there's practically no difference externally.

Keith

Thank you for the photo links, they should be quite helpful I'm sure. As for adding Patriots and Rebuilt Jubilees, it isn't my shout to be honest, as my main responsibilities are to script, simulate and steam up. I think it's down to modeller, Tom, and acquiring further drawings to ensure that the differences were correctly and completely modelled. The script, steam and sounds would all be shared if it happened, and the simulation tweaked to reflect the differences in TE and performance, such as the sharper accelerating but overall less powerful rebuilt jubilee, but I suspect that the modelling effort shouldn't be underestimated.

I will see what can be done for a shot, no-name version of the scot though, with steam gushing out in all the wrong places. As you rightly point out, it would also be useful for reskinners who want to use their own nameplates.

Thanks
Chris

[DominusEdwardius]

These two highlight the differences pretty well ( also note the front bufferbeam is slightly different in shape )
Patriot
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ksbank.jpg
Scot
http://www.davidheyscollection.com/user ... e-1960.jpg

Front sanding on the Scot looks pretty good, 3 leading sanders I've only ever seen two!
regards
Edward

[cjbarnes5294]

What an awful position to tighten up the smokebox dart in, on the patriot.



Chris

[cjbarnes5294]

I've also just remembered that the rebuilt Jubilees had a slightly smaller diameter smokebox than either the Scots or Patriots, hence keeping their original smokebox doors.

Chris

[Rockdoc2174]

I've been well and truly put back in my box, haven't I? Thanks, chaps.

Keith

[SteamSoundsSupreme]

I love the idea of a grubby Scot for GCR use! Hopefully we'll get a steam-age GCR route at some point. The Friargate route provides an excellent starting point!

We'll discuss as a team the details, but I'm happy to push through the grubby, nameless one, if Tom and Chris are.....................................

Regards
Matt

[Rockdoc2174]

Sounds good!

Keith

[Zoid99]

I do have drawings for a rebuilt Jubilee..... Future project maybe??? Quite a few parts would be abled to be copied from the Scot like wheels, valve gear etc plus I don't think I would need to model a different tender.

I would love to do a weathered variant, but weathering is a skill that I don't have :-/

Cheers
Tom

[Rockdoc2174]

Talk to briyeo. He's a master, IMO.

Keith